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Returning after 4 years, wanting to go mono or dual
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(02-02-2018, 04:01 AM)Xharyel Wrote: Ow.... I didn't know they multiplied... Damn. That's actually really nice to know, thanks.

Okay, I kinda get it. Is x8 overkill in terms of damage ?

In that case, if I keep OVR Yan (I'll try both NVR and OVR anyways), who would you replace Bedivere with (since she's the only one I haven't maxed yet) ? I'm considering Doris if I keep using OVR Yan, since NVR would render her useless. But using Doris would mean using my All Max Pick (so no Daji, but I can live with that).

I don't think its overkill necessarily. Chessia's leader skill multiplier is actually pretty low for the current meta. One of her few strong points is that she's one of the few fire leaders that has decent recovery. You could say that Chessia needs an extra 2x constant damage boost just to catch up to the damage of other meta leaders. But using 3 slots on constant damage boosts leaves less room for utility to deal with annoying enemy skills.

NVR Yan is worth at least a 2x boost to both damage and recovery just from extra skydrop combos. The biggest weakness is that there's not much you can do about neutralize ex enemies. Up to you which version you like better, though.

Doris isn't so rare that you need to spend an All Max reward on her. I'd say Seth is worth all maxing for utility reasons since all max Seth's active is also a damage booster. Agnesi has feeders to slvl 12 and has recently been slightly buffed with an alternate machine evolution. Poppy can be pretty good as well if you put in the resources to all max her. And you might get Doris if you're drawing during the CNY black card event anyway, so at least wait until then.

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Okay thank you again !

I'll stay with my current fire setup for now and wait to see if I can pull Doris. After a few testing, I find it really fun to play and it has really good damage. With 2 Chessia and Mai, I never really ran out of fire runes so I guess it's ok, I need to play it more to be sure.

And yeah, I was planning to wait CNY before using my All Max pick, but tbh, I'd rather pick a unit that has 15 slvl (it hurts so much to use Harpies)... Haha.

About Agnesi, I'll start working on her feeders ! Big Grin

Btw, is Skeggjald worth a spot too ?

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Hey guys, it's me again, so a little update :

I've done 3 teams since I started this thread and also got new cards :

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Right now I'm planning to do another team, I'm thinking about light but I'm not sure about a few things. If I don't use fusion, would Arthur be better than TSZ ? I don't really know if I have good members for either of those teams. But I'd like to give it a shot.

Maybe earth would be better ?

Anyways, here's my updated inventory :

Dark :

God : Anubis, Pollux, Alma, Loki, Tsukuyomi, Odin, Raguel, Norvi, Artemis, Osiris, John, SGB, Namtar, Tsukuyomi (MS collab), Happy Prince, Erebus, Izanami

Demon : Mastema, Felix, Lu Bu (the old one), Todd, Tsuchigumo, Feng Chih Hen

Human : Ye Shai Chai (3x), G-Dragon, Diao Chan, Xiahou Dun, Lu Bu (the new one), Endor, Thomas Midgley, Yue Jin Zhao, Sumatra, Athena Asamiya, Yocto, Deus Ex

Beast : Bapho, Lynx, GSoD, Atlach Nacha

Dragon : Golem, Faugn, Novalis (x2), Wawel, Sunnie

Elf : Rose, Komatsuhime, Hyacinth, Malphas, Morris, Daji


Light :

God : Tang Sanzang, Zeus, Inanna, Luna (x2), Gabriel, Appolo, Thor, Galio, Persephone, Jiang Shang, God Striker, Magic Lamp, Thrud, Aether, Bael, Lyra

Demon : Faust, Jack, Imanotsurugi etc, Kejourou, Beelzebub, Tokugawa

Human : Arthur, Honda, Modi & Magni, Ming Hsiu, Yi Yeh Shu, Marbas, Nathaniel, Lisa Bufano, Tang Hsue Jian, Dodo, Morse, Mahonin, Sima Yi, Kushinada, Benimaru Nikaido, Terry Bogard, Huang Zhong, Valac

Beast : Ra, Mitty and Marble

Dragon : Daoloth, Tulzscha, Honor, Fafnir, Copper Bullet

Elf : Lady White Bones, Strelitzia


Water :

God : Yuanshi Tianzun, Pontos, Poseidon, Pisces, Carrie, Atrahasis, Raphael, Abraham, Susanoo

Demon : Elizabeth, Beowulf, Scrubia, Yuki Onna, Louis

Human : Zhao Ling Er, Su Huan Jen, Troy, Wen Zhong, Cai Wenji, Swedge, Molly, Gretchen etc, Han Ling Sha, Yue Qi, Aloha, Baby King, Guan Yu, Sun Quan, Galahad, Azai, Oichi, Ji Wu Wang, Sie Kensou

Beast : Tefnut

Dragon : Ursula, Dagon, Kulkan

Elf : Vepar, Pupuro, Sera, Andromeda, May Lily


Fire :

God : Chessia, Ninurta, Uriel, Armstrong, Yan, Amaterasu, Tyr, Poppy, Dipankara (is it me or he had another name before ? oO), Skeggjald, Heimdallr, Phanes, Kagutsuchi, Perseus, Auriga

Demon : Doris, Golden Horned & Silver Horned, Cao Cao, Achilles, Jackie, Mo Wang Zi, Shuten Doji

Human : Nobunaga, Medea, Mai Shiranui, Agnesi, Tae Yang, Boyciana, Rococo, Tristan, Bedivere

Beast : Suzuko

Dragon : Agatha, Seth, Chtugha, Piasa

Elf : Clara, Sakura, Rosemellow, Marchosias


Earth :

God : Freyja, Ophiuchus (x2), Domon, Hertz, Sariel, Geironul,Vali, Gaia, Huifre, Izanagi

Demon : Rakshasa, Diarmuid, Yaoji, Belle (x2), Rosa Sisters, Karasutengu, Treasure Hunter, Samael, Samle, Yibb Tstll

Human : Hideyoshi, Yang Jian, Duncan, Circe, Seungri, Altair, Jing Tian, Jiang Yun Fang, Yunyang, Liu Bei, Gawain, Gareth, Jian Zhi Chu, Kim, Lu Xun

Beast : Zhu Bajie, Bull King, Inari

Dragon : Nidhogg, Shu, Barbara (x2), Draco, Byakhee

Elf : Matryoshka, (Kindle) Paperwhite


I put in bold all the new cards I got since I made the thread.

So now that I have 3 functionning teams, what do you think should be my 4th one ? Ideally light, but then again, I'm not really sure. Thanks again in advance ! Smile

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(02-17-2018, 01:27 AM)Xharyel Wrote: Hey guys, it's me again, so a little update :

I've done 3 teams since I started this thread and also got new cards :

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Right now I'm planning to do another team, I'm thinking about light but I'm not sure about a few things. If I don't use fusion, would Arthur be better than TSZ ? I don't really know if I have good members for either of those teams. But I'd like to give it a shot.

Maybe earth would be better ?

Anyways, here's my updated inventory :

Dark :

God : Anubis, Pollux, Alma, Loki, Tsukuyomi, Odin, Raguel, Norvi, Artemis, Osiris, John, SGB, Namtar, Tsukuyomi (MS collab), Happy Prince, Erebus, Izanami

Demon : Mastema, Felix, Lu Bu (the old one), Todd, Tsuchigumo, Feng Chih Hen

Human : Ye Shai Chai (3x), G-Dragon, Diao Chan, Xiahou Dun, Lu Bu (the new one), Endor, Thomas Midgley, Yue Jin Zhao, Sumatra, Athena Asamiya, Yocto, Deus Ex

Beast : Bapho, Lynx, GSoD, Atlach Nacha

Dragon : Golem, Faugn, Novalis (x2), Wawel, Sunnie

Elf : Rose, Komatsuhime, Hyacinth, Malphas, Morris, Daji


Light :

God : Tang Sanzang, Zeus, Inanna, Luna (x2), Gabriel, Appolo, Thor, Galio, Persephone, Jiang Shang, God Striker, Magic Lamp, Thrud, Aether, Bael, Lyra

Demon : Faust, Jack, Imanotsurugi etc, Kejourou, Beelzebub, Tokugawa

Human : Arthur, Honda, Modi & Magni, Ming Hsiu, Yi Yeh Shu, Marbas, Nathaniel, Lisa Bufano, Tang Hsue Jian, Dodo, Morse, Mahonin, Sima Yi, Kushinada, Benimaru Nikaido, Terry Bogard, Huang Zhong, Valac

Beast : Ra, Mitty and Marble

Dragon : Daoloth, Tulzscha, Honor, Fafnir, Copper Bullet

Elf : Lady White Bones, Strelitzia


Water :

God : Yuanshi Tianzun, Pontos, Poseidon, Pisces, Carrie, Atrahasis, Raphael, Abraham, Susanoo

Demon : Elizabeth, Beowulf, Scrubia, Yuki Onna, Louis

Human : Zhao Ling Er, Su Huan Jen, Troy, Wen Zhong, Cai Wenji, Swedge, Molly, Gretchen etc, Han Ling Sha, Yue Qi, Aloha, Baby King, Guan Yu, Sun Quan, Galahad, Azai, Oichi, Ji Wu Wang, Sie Kensou

Beast : Tefnut

Dragon : Ursula, Dagon, Kulkan

Elf : Vepar, Pupuro, Sera, Andromeda, May Lily


Fire :

God : Chessia, Ninurta, Uriel, Armstrong, Yan, Amaterasu, Tyr, Poppy, Dipankara (is it me or he had another name before ? oO), Skeggjald, Heimdallr, Phanes, Kagutsuchi, Perseus, Auriga

Demon : Doris, Golden Horned & Silver Horned, Cao Cao, Achilles, Jackie, Mo Wang Zi, Shuten Doji

Human : Nobunaga, Medea, Mai Shiranui, Agnesi, Tae Yang, Boyciana, Rococo, Tristan, Bedivere

Beast : Suzuko

Dragon : Agatha, Seth, Chtugha, Piasa

Elf : Clara, Sakura, Rosemellow, Marchosias


Earth :

God : Freyja, Ophiuchus (x2), Domon, Hertz, Sariel, Geironul,Vali, Gaia, Huifre, Izanagi

Demon : Rakshasa, Diarmuid, Yaoji, Belle (x2), Rosa Sisters, Karasutengu, Treasure Hunter, Samael, Samle, Yibb Tstll

Human : Hideyoshi, Yang Jian, Duncan, Circe, Seungri, Altair, Jing Tian, Jiang Yun Fang, Yunyang, Liu Bei, Gawain, Gareth, Jian Zhi Chu, Kim, Lu Xun

Beast : Zhu Bajie, Bull King, Inari

Dragon : Nidhogg, Shu, Barbara (x2), Draco, Byakhee

Elf : Matryoshka, (Kindle) Paperwhite


I put in bold all the new cards I got since I made the thread.

So now that I have 3 functionning teams, what do you think should be my 4th one ? Ideally light, but then again, I'm not really sure. Thanks again in advance ! Smile

You are in luck my friend. You've got 3 outstanding light teams you can have:

Arthur - M&M - Haung Zhong - Yi Yeh Shu - Free Spot - Arthur, this team packs a punch and has a free spot for utility. Arthur can heal, break defense, and reduce damage, so his active skill is great for surviving. M&M is for converting and boosting damage, great card to train in general. Haung Zhong + YYS is basically a nuke x6. The free spot allows greater team flexibility and survivability. I would personally place in Nathaniel for the extra three rows, or Lisa for heals and damage in the same battle, or Morse for a time tunnel + damage booster. All of the core cards, save for YYS, are trainable with feeders that are easy to get (M&M) or can be found in the black hole.

Tansang Zhang - M&M - Jack - Fafnir - Arthurt - Tansang Zhang, this team has good damage, and recovery. The team isnt exactly a nuke, but its very stable. The perks of developing this team is that it will help to develop your like box with some core members like M&M, another advantage is that you can hotswap team members as long as there is 4 races in the team. Lunar and Solar Sirius are a must farm when they come out because it creates crazy team damage and offers great utility, Minamoto will probably come out of the diamond seal relatively quickly, the minamoto + Imanotsurugi fusion is a very good addition to a TSZ team. I personally run TSZ - M&M - Minamoto - Imanotsurugi - Merlin, high damage and recovery.

Daoloth - Honor - Tulzscha - Ra - Lady Whitebones - Daoloth, big damage and health. This team is pretty simple, high multiplier, built in 5 convert every round, x2.25 HP from an already massive pool, and Combo breaking actives x2. Honor + Tulzcha for converting and getting a passive atk boost, Ra for board clear and damage boost, and Lady Whitebones for board convert and burst. This team as is is very strong, but you can get Pluma from the friend seal for a good x3.5 adjacent booster for Daoloths x4 self attack active, and also fenrir for massive damage and health.

Other teams to look at are:

Poseidon - Wen Zhong - Andromeda - Raphael - Troy, this team will develop 2 of the core water cards- Cassandra (Troy) and Wen Zhong, opening up future water teams, and enchantress based teams. Andromeda + Troy is basically a multi hit nuke, Raphael can be replaced, but offers a nice multiplier and mini time tunnel.

Su Huan Jeng - Swedge - Sun Quan - Troy - Molly, great meta team, has great overall damage and allows you to hotswap members for every stage.

Guan Yu - All 3 Enchantress' - Andromeda, basically a super fun and super brainless team. Only suitable for stages with no neutralise reset or anti RGB skills.

Izanagi - Circe - Rakshasa - Matryoshka - Nidhogg, super stable team with great recovery and damage. Very consistent team and is very versatile.

I personally recommend developing all the teams above because as your box gets larger, the leaders you have like TSZ, Poseidon, Arthur, Guan Yu, and Izanagi, start allowing you to make teams that steamroll some stages, or allow you to clear super technical stages. An example was Qi Tian Di, of the teams listed, the most reliable and 'stable' ones we Izanagi and Tansang Zhang teams. Although its no longer accessible, it showed the utter creulty MadHead is capable of showing, and the amount of diversity in a players box thats needed to clear NIGHTMARE stages.

PS, just have fun doing it though.
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Thank you very much, it's now clearer for me. I think I'll do Arthur as my first light team, the members seems fairly easy to train and also looks fun to play !

I'm also working on my 3 enchantress', I think it's going to be smooth since I pulled them a while back when there was an event where they were slvl 10.

Btw, I guess I'll be having a slight change of plan ! I just luckily pulled an Atlantis so I might as well use him.

For the meantime, I'm planning to do this team :

Atlantis - Su Huan Jen - Wen Zhong - Cassandra - Cai Wenji

Is this okay ? I'm not sure about Cai Wenji, maybe Andromeda would also fit in her stead ?

Anyways, I think I'm gonna focus first on the Atlantis team before Arthur since I think it's gonna help me a lot more and I have a few members who are ready.

Although I'm feeling overwhelmed by the amount of things I have to work on, it's all good, it's keeping me and I'm really having fun Big Grin
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(02-20-2018, 05:09 AM)Xharyel Wrote: Thank you very much, it's now clearer for me. I think I'll do Arthur as my first light team, the members seems fairly easy to train and also looks fun to play !

I'm also working on my 3 enchantress', I think it's going to be smooth since I pulled them a while back when there was an event where they were slvl 10.

Btw, I guess I'll be having a slight change of plan ! I just luckily pulled an Atlantis so I might as well use him.

For the meantime, I'm planning to do this team :

Atlantis - Su Huan Jen - Wen Zhong - Cassandra - Cai Wenji

Is this okay ? I'm not sure about Cai Wenji, maybe Andromeda would also fit in her stead ?

Anyways, I think I'm gonna focus first on the Atlantis team before Arthur since I think it's gonna help me a lot more and I have a few members who are ready.

Although I'm feeling overwhelmed by the amount of things I have to work on, it's all good, it's keeping me and I'm really having fun Big Grin

You want Pisces and Swegde for Atlantis, he benefits from faster converters rather than fuller converters like Su Huan Jen, who will just fill your board with unnecessary hearts and light anyway. If you find yourself lacking burst, Pupuro is not a terrible choice, and Tefnut makes for a better explode than Wenji (Wenji's benefits are speed and synergy with human race leaders like Guan Yu, Zhurong, and Sun Ce, but Tefnut is the better choice outside those).

You have a lot of good leaders. Black cards, VRs, Perrenials, Ophiuchus, Izanagi, Amaterasu, Arthur. You must be spoiled for choice teambuilding right now.
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