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Oriceles Meta Analysis «17.0», Tier List 16-3-2019
#11
We will be getting machina branch of western beasts, so there is that in terms of machina support, so i'm excited to see what it will be like.

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#12
One thing to note is that since the Scientists are Madhead creations they will most likely get PR, VR, Amelioration, buff, perhaps even AR in the future.

Of course, this means you don't need to rush to draw them as they will be available forever.

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#13
(02-14-2019, 06:04 PM)spacelion Wrote: One thing to note is that since the Scientists are Madhead creations they will most likely get PR, VR, Amelioration, buff, perhaps even AR in the future...

Fallen halos are also madhead creations and they haven't received pr, vr, ame, or any buff in 3 years!  You might be correct about scientists but when will they come around for an update...10 years?  I don't think that is practical unless madhead speeds something up.

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#14
Aristotle (dark machina) - CD7
Self attack 5x (no sharing) for 1 round (if Socrates and Plato are at fuel 100% - self attack 10x instead)

Mecha Western Beasts:
Cerberus - CD 5
Convert columns of enchanted fire runes under 2 random machina. If L/A are machina, L/A attack 2.5x

Baphomet - CD 5
Convert columns of enchanted dark runes under 2 random machina. If L/A are machina, L/A attack 2.5x

Cthulhu - CD 6
Convert Fire/Heart to enchanted Heart, Water/Dark to enchanted Water. Fuel +30%. If all machina are at fuel 100%, self CD -2

Griffin - CD 6
Convert Dark/Heart to enchanted Heart, Light/Fire to enchanted Light. Fuel +30%. If all machina are at fuel 100%, self CD -2

Medusa - CD 10
Electrify all enemies, affected targets are inactivated for 3 rounds. While effect is in play, machina ATK 1.5x.
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#15
I don't think converting Medusa into machina is a good idea. She is better an earth member than machina one. But if MH reduces her cd from 15 to 10, it means after 3 turns she can be activated (ame 4), quite fast.
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(02-16-2019, 03:54 PM)kukingkong Wrote: I don't think converting Medusa into machina is a good idea. She is better an earth member than machina one. But if MH reduces her cd from 15 to 10, it means after 3 turns she can be activated (ame 4), quite fast.

Mono machina really needs a crowd control though, so Mecha Medusa is the best investment of the lot.
It's not like you can revert your current PR Medusa to get Mecha Medusa anyway. May as well get both.  

Not sure if ameliorations will stay the same or not. We'll see.
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#17
You also get 50 keys for each machina member you evolve as well as 5 dimes for completing the whole set. So I'm planning to do all of them (since it would cost less than 5 dimes worth of stamina).
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#18
Cthulhu for Einstein. Super accelerated 100% fuel.
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(02-16-2019, 04:11 PM)agnesi Wrote: ...
Not sure if ameliorations will stay the same or not. We'll see.

They change for medusa and others.  U no longer get cd reduction before stage but u get up to 27% column attk.  For cd reduction i guess u need einstein.
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(02-19-2019, 03:11 AM)jtsmith Wrote:
(02-16-2019, 04:11 PM)agnesi Wrote: ...
Not sure if ameliorations will stay the same or not. We'll see.

They change for medusa and others.  U no longer get cd reduction before stage but u get up to 27% column attk.  For cd reduction i guess u need einstein.
CD 10 for machina vs. CD 8 fully ame PR Medusa

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