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Guide to Michael Lunafer (Updated with Yan and Xi Permutations)
#21
I vote for a title name change into Michael LuNARFer!
Brilliant guide, it's great to see the long winding discussion formed into feasible and applicable results!

(08-13-2014, 02:01 AM)jaredkoh Wrote: Oh wow my heart Greek got mentioned. Haha thanks Narf!
As both qoh doesn't give any multiplier, I figured I needed some heavy hitters in the lineup and ML came to mind.
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I don't even...

Well. You know Michael Lucifer is pretty f***ing strong when you can actually put it inside any decks.
I mean. An overheal deck, led by two Fire Humans.
What? How?
Dang this card reel stronk.

EDIT: Although, bro, that's one hell of a composition. I might try another variant (most of the forum members could already guess what this means) of it to see if it's possible to actually do a strong dual Heart Greek as long as there's a massive gun between the two ladies. Good find!

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#22
Updated!

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Narfmaster 15481009 ENFU Div4
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#23
This make me wish I had Thor and a 126 team cost =(

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#24
will leave this here for a while more before transferring it to the best guides section
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#25
Guys, a question: Is it better use minamoto as leader, or ML? I don't have Thor.

With Mina lead, I get 150% atk and 50% hearts, can I say that's 200%?
With ML lead, I have double attacking runes so it's almost like 200% too. My only qualm about ml lead is that minamoto' skill is useless here.

Would appreciate some input on this..
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#26
(08-14-2014, 05:10 PM)jaredkoh Wrote: Guys, a question: Is it better use minamoto as leader, or ML? I don't have Thor.

With Mina lead, I get 150% atk and 50% hearts, can I say that's 200%?
With ML lead, I have double attacking runes so it's almost like 200% too. My only qualm about ml lead is that minamoto' skill is useless here.

Would appreciate some input on this..

Assuming that you will use PR Daji as ally, i believe that ML leader will be much more beneficial.

Dissolving light runes will contribute to daji and minamoto still can be use as a situational converter.

Dissolving heart to attack can be a nuisance if you are trying to stall cd
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#27
(08-14-2014, 05:10 PM)jaredkoh Wrote: Guys, a question: Is it better use minamoto as leader, or ML? I don't have Thor.

With Mina lead, I get 150% atk and 50% hearts, can I say that's 200%?
With ML lead, I have double attacking runes so it's almost like 200% too. My only qualm about ml lead is that minamoto' skill is useless here.

Would appreciate some input on this..

should be slightly more complex than that.

Anyone feel free to step in and correct me

say your attack is 1000 with 1 combo

3 light runes = 1000 x 1.5 = 1500

3 heart runes = 1000 x 0.5 x 1.5 = 750

total = 2250/1000 = 225% effective over dissolving 6 light runes.
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#28
hmmm... mini_cow's calculation looks valid. So we can equate Mina to 225% and ML to 200%, and assume you would use Daji ally with either. Since with Mina leader you lose most of Daji's attack, that makes up for the 25% difference (roughly). Can we conclude that they are about the same power as leaders? The benefit to using Minamoto as leader would be that he is slightly more useful as a converter. The downside is that its harder to stall for CD.

Perhaps I should add a note on this to the original post
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#29
Great job with the guide, Narfmaster, kudos.

ML is a great card, and gradually is becoming my main deck. I think it has a great future ahead.
Whether you want to use as a defensive deck burster:

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As a pure burster (Ouch!):

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Or -most importantly- redoing all EX… a really versatile deck that can handle any EX or SM:

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Diablo 10 turns:
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I hope it will inspire
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#30
Thanks for the reply Marinelaldas and mini_cow!
That makes sense-
Either (A) use minamoto lead for pure mono light (ally Thor or valac)
Or (B) ML lead with Fox ally.
But I think team B does more damage at 3 combos and above (according to the spreadsheet) , so I should always do team B!
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