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[Discussion+Strategy+Info] Invincible Black Magic - Nightmare
#1
This stage is really hard. To quote aaronyxy: "QTD part 2"

Info on wiki: https://towerofsaviors.fandom.com/wiki/Invincible_Black_Magic

Achievements: 
3+ Fire Members
3+ Light Members
Same Leader and Ally
DC Reward: https://towerofsaviors.fandom.com/wiki/Shadowy_Blast_Opal

General Notes:
You DON'T want to bring a dark team because of all the anti-dark stages. Gon/Killua with Killua being the single dark member might be ok.
9 combo EX and 23 rune shield are a pain. Time tunnel / PR starter etc. might help.
Board exploders are also useful.

2* Clear (Light Team, Same Leader and Ally) with Dual Erza + Laxus, Mavis, Kurapika, Darkness and Aggresive Pique Seal for 2 turn delay in emergency

1, 2) Spin through while stalling CD. Turn on Kurapika and Darkness when ready. 
3) Laxus 
3b) Both Erza and hope for good skydrops
4) Spin through, Darkness if needed for heart runes. Turn on Darkness again as soon as it's ready. 
5) Target Dark first and use the 2-dissolve of light/water/heart well so that you can clear dark/earth runes without the reflect. After dark is first you have a bit of breathing space to stall back all CD. 
6, 7) You need to burst down these 2 stages. 
On 6, try to spin through a little. After 2 hits you'll need to burst though, so use Erza, Mavis and spin well!
7) Laxus
8a) Spin through
8b) Erza, Kurapika Switch and EP skill 2, DC. Count runes well or you're probably going to die. 
9) Stall CD on the first 3 forms. With Darkness up and using the 2-dissolve for water/light the damage isn't much. You need to burst from here to the end! Mavis and Erza to move on. 
10a) Laxus
10b) Kurapika, Erza, DC with all 5 attributes. good luck!




2* Clear (Fire Team, Same Leader and Ally) with Dual Natsu + PR Medea, CF Nobunaga, PR Sean, Sun Hsiao Mei 

1, 2, 3a) You want to stall 7 turns for Natsu to be up. If your ally  Natsu has DC then you only need to stall 6 turns. On each stage, you can potentially stall one turn then spin one turn to kill enemies. Alternatively, if you can kill the dark enemy first on stage 1 it's very easy to stall on the fire enemy afterwards. 
3b) Medea, Natsu skill 2, Sean 
4) Fill in the puzzle and make sure to dissolve 2 sets of fire
5) Spin while avoiding dark and earth runes
6) You can stall CD 1-2 turns here if needed. Otherwise just spin through
7) Kill within 2 turns
8a) Natsu skill 2, spin through while dissolving 2 sets of fire and ignoring dark in initial dissolve
8b) Big burst with Natsu skill 1, Nobunaga, Sun Hsiao Mei, DC
9) Turn off Medea and stall back all your CD on the first 3 forms. After that, turn Medea on again, use Natsu skill 2 and spin through. 
10a) Natsu skill 2, avoid dark in initial. After it attacks once, Sean and Nobu
10b) Hopefully you have a good board!! Sun Hsiao Mei, Natsu combine skill, DC



Good luck!

Other Teams: 
1* Atlantis (Aloha, Mobius, Boilerman, Water Lionel): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx1MTbccVc0
1* Atlantis (Aloha, Giemsa, Spider, Mobius): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiQBovZAUzA
1* Atlantis (Elizabeth, Wen Zhong, Spider, Water Lionel): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0f_Ix8IoJE
1* Aqua (Lucy, Mitsurugi, Atlantis, Natsu): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uIooYinR5s
1* Aqua (Lucy, Mitsurugi, Tefnut, Mavis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thBIq4zZNYs
1* Aqua (Lucy, 2x Mitsurugi, Atlantis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg2Ofqe2H-0
1* Beasts (Haza + Zero): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZPxnvi5Vdk
0* Beasts (Mellow + Zero): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT0CQAhHFyA
0* Beasts (Mellow + Zero): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bakArqqYd2A
2* Darkness (Erza, Jellal, Kurapika, Natsu): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYaN3zz7Rjg
2* Darkness (Kurapika, Jellal, Erza, Laxus): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiNOCZP_LT4
2* Darkness (Morse, Huang Zhong, Hattori, Camera): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLMmW16aBtE
2* Darkness (Erza, Faraday, Sensui, Laxus): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SckJJfdqH8
2* Erza (Laxus, Jellal, Lucy, Mavis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7tSApErxqE
2* Erza (Mavis, Wendy, Jellal, Kurapika): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wbkiRqcTw0
1* Khaos (Ubume, Mavis, Colin, Yog): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PCMl-8OrAU
2* Lucy (Mavis, Erza, Jellal, Darkness): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2MWPE0S0-Q
2* Lucy (Mavis, Laxus, Jellal, Erza): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc7lUU6hOig 
2* Lucy (Mavis, Erza, Jellal, Paladin Overlord): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z2fb1QldFE
2* Natsu (Piasa, Shakuro - 4 card clear): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3UGjz68ICQ
2* Natsu (Laxus, Kurapika, Killua, Biscuit): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxjib74q1ko
2* Natsu (Princess Sarah, Medea, Kurapika, Biscuit): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh1_9I69lVI
2* Natsu (Biscuit, Fthaggua, Shakuro, Santa): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgsejOP8GTc
2* Natsu (Medea, CF Nobunaga, CF Morse, Sean): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC8JNyhnW7Q
2* Natsu (Erza, Medea, Santa, Jellal): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ev7xPGPpkI
2* Natsu (Medea, CF Morse, Sean, Igneel): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcAPxzUJ8UQ
3* Natsu (Biscuit, Erza, Kurapika, Nyx): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdUuhb7Nhrk
3* Natsu (Fthaggua, 2x Kurapika, Mavis): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvxnSpbjgDw

Uses bug:
2* Natsu (Jellal, Megumin, Medea, Erza): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sidxGI1QMNE

Channel: youtube.com/c/SavTower
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All Max + VR: WFLD Greek, FELD Babylon, All Norse, Lucy, Beelzebub, Pontos, Aether, Erebus, Yog-Sothoth, Chessia, Satan, Guan Yu, TSZ, Izanagi, Hideyoshi
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#2
Hey at least the 23 rune shield doesn't fully negates enchanted attacks!

If using Erza, which is not recommended for those pesky can't dissolve heart stresses, consider Nyx for the team. She clears the monochrome effectconverts away those hearts and gives a five attributes board perfect for that last hp.

That reset if there's no Natsu or Maevis doesn't seem to clear away effects, that could lead to some interesting cheese strats.

I'm tempted to try using Chessia for the fire mono clear but first I will have to check how hard the enemies hit and their hp.

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Available allies: pr Idun, all max pr Verthandi, ame IV Lu Cheng-Syuan, Dumuzi, Atrahasis.
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#3
I really wouldn't suggest Chessia as her damage is way too low. Might be better off skipping the craft if you don't have a better fire leader =/

Channel: youtube.com/c/SavTower
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All Max + VR: WFLD Greek, FELD Babylon, All Norse, Lucy, Beelzebub, Pontos, Aether, Erebus, Yog-Sothoth, Chessia, Satan, Guan Yu, TSZ, Izanagi, Hideyoshi
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#4
I'm going to use Natsu, just wanted to try Chessia for fun, which nite that I saw the hp and hits of enemies it wouldn't be much fun.

The achievements needing 3+ members of fire or light is pretty welcomed though.

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Available allies: pr Idun, all max pr Verthandi, ame IV Lu Cheng-Syuan, Dumuzi, Atrahasis.
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#5
Unless I find an amazingly safe team tomorrow (doubtful), I'm probably going to max Zeref by farming Sphinxes rather than this stage. It's just not worth the trouble.
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All Max + VR: WFLD Greek, FELD Babylon, All Norse, Lucy, Beelzebub, Pontos, Aether, Erebus, Yog-Sothoth, Chessia, Satan, Guan Yu, TSZ, Izanagi, Hideyoshi
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#6
Used a craft with quintet shield ignore on Zeref's second health bar and it did not work? Am I missing something?
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#7
done all achievements.
natsu erza medea santa jellal natsu
natsu erza kurapika morse jellal natsu.
jelall and both time tunnel is the key for acnologia 2nd hp.
morse ep is abit more trickier to store.
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#8
(01-26-2019, 01:13 AM)ChingPongLingLong Wrote: Used a craft with quintet shield ignore on Zeref's second health bar and it did not work? Am I missing something?

– The Craft skill “Damage will be dealt to enemies regardless of “Quintet Elemental Shield” for 1 Round” is not working in some circumstances
https://en.towerofsaviors.com/knownissue/

I had heard it wasn't working on enchanted quintet, but I thought that that it would have worked on Zeref.
Might be safer not to depend on craft then. 
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Allies (All/Dbl Max): Darkness, Aqua, Kurama
Other Frequently Used Leaders (All/Dbl Max): Lucy, Mellow, VR Greek (FELDW), Hiei, Azathoth, Daoloth, PR Haza, etc.
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#9
(01-26-2019, 04:06 AM)agnesi Wrote:
(01-26-2019, 01:13 AM)ChingPongLingLong Wrote: Used a craft with quintet shield ignore on Zeref's second health bar and it did not work? Am I missing something?

– The Craft skill “Damage will be dealt to enemies regardless of “Quintet Elemental Shield” for 1 Round” is not working in some circumstances
https://en.towerofsaviors.com/knownissue/

I had heard it wasn't working on enchanted quintet, but I thought that that it would have worked on Zeref.
Might be safer not to depend on craft then. 

Damn, tilted to the max now. Could've cleared with yusuke if that weren't the case >Sad
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#10
Darkness | Huang Zhong | Yi Yeh Shu | Morse | Light Paladin + Darkness, any DC
1. Spin and stall. Activate Darkness and Huang Zhong whenever ready (and stall for Darkness CD again).
2. Same as above.
3a. Same as above.
3b. DC to reveal the board. Alternatively: Morse convert, Switch and convert twice more, then toggle Darkness. This will reveal over half the board with Light and Heart runes. Cut the runes to maximize combos, then tank the remaining hits and heal up with Light Paladin. Slowly spin the rest.
4. Toggle Darkness for Hearts, Yi Yeh Shu and spin.
5. Stall to recover actives by dissolving initial Earth or Dark (killing one makes things easier).
6. Take a few hits to regain your multiplier. Yi Yeh Shu and Morse time tunnel.
7. Using the second round of Yi Yeh Shu, burst it down. Toggle Darkness for attack runes if there's not enough on the board.
8a. Stall to recover actives by dissolving initial Dark.
8b. Spin away enchanted runes first. Then toggle Darkness for attack runes, Yi Yeh Shu and Morse time tunnel.
9. Recover all actives over the first three lives. At the last life, collect some Light runes, then heal up with Light Paladin, Yi Yeh Shu and Morse time tunnel (Darkness can remove your Water runes and make burst impossible, so use with caution).
10a. Remember that Light Paladin heal from 9? Here's why it's important: Carefully grind 6 turns for Light Paladin to return, stacking Dark runes. Activate Darkness and Huang Zhong whenever ready.
10b. Just spin, this wave is easy peasy. Use Yi Yeh Shu and Morse time tunnel to finish off.

Haza | Dodo | Ghostie | Aloha | Yunyang + Zero, any DC
1. Grind up. Dodo and Yunyang once ready.
2. Same as above.
3a. Aloha, Haza 1 + Zero.
3b. Ghostie.
4. Turn off Yunyang. Stall for Zero, to come up. Haza 1 + Zero once you have enough Hearts to fill the puzzle (aim to get columns).
5. Grind stuff back. Activate Yunyang once available.
6. Haza 2 + Ghostie.
7. Aloha if there's more than 6 Dark on board; Haza 1 + Zero + DC.
8a. Grind everything back by dissolving initial Dark.
8b. Spin off any enchanted runes, then Haza 2 + Zero + DC.
9. Grind skills back over the first few lives. Haza 1 + Ghostie + Zero at the final life. Note the positions of Dark runes in the side columns at the end!
10a. Stack Dark and spin carefully. Dodo and Yunyang once available. Haza 2 + Zero to finish off.
10b. Dodo and Haza's second turn are still active; Ghostie + Haza 1 to clear! (Aloha instead of Haza 1 if the board doesn't have all 5 colours)
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Alt: 84,088,062

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